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Rachie
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posted June 09, 2004 10:07 AM      Profile for Rachie         
I am new to this forum and will appreciate all advice and support that anyone can give. I wasn't even sure if I should post here or under the Dog Health Forum because my situation really concerns both. Please bare with me while I give what little I now about the history of my newest family member...

My husband and I have recently taken in a stray female beagle that showed up in our neighborhood. We immediatley took her to our vet and found out that she is 11 or 12 years old and had a tumor in one of her breasts that would have to be removed if we decided to keep her. Also her teeth were in really bad shape and at least a couple of them would have to come out. We decided to go ahead with the tooth scaling and tumor removal because this little girl is the sweetest natured, most humble little beagle that I have ever seen. We believe that she may have been a house dog because she had no problem strolling right in our house and making herself comfortable on our couch. For the first three days after bringing her in, she never once acting as though she were going to "potty" in the house. Even during the night she would jump on the side of the bed and I would let her out to go. The day before she was scheduled to go in for her surgery, she became very ill with diarrhea and of course could not help but go in the house. The vet done blood work and didn't find anything so he attributed her illnes to the terrible condition her teeth were in and he proceeded with the tooth scaling and tumor removal. Ever since, she has been going potty in the house without any effort to get outside. She has even been outside and 15 minutes after coming back in, she went inside. It has only been 6 days since the surgery and I'm sure she is not feeling 100% yet but she just seems to be getting too comfortable going inside.

Could it just be a trauma thing and she will eventually get back to going out like she was before surgery or should I begin some sort of training routine before things get out of hand? I really feel for her because it can't be easy to change environment at her age. Of course we don't know her name (which has to be hard on her as well)so we are calling her Annie (as in Little Orphan Annie).

One other problem she seems to be having is scratching. She has no fleas and the vet has checked her skin and can find no reason for her to be itching but she scratches herself excessively especially at night.

We desperatley want to make the rest of Annie's life as happy and stress free as possible so any advice would be greatly appreceiated.

Thanks

Posts: 4 | From: Virginia | Registered: Jun 2004
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posted June 09, 2004 03:25 PM      Profile for DaxAriel's toy         
WOW!! I don't know if I would be spending the kind of money you're talking about on a stray that you're adopting especially since she's not even in the prime of life anymore. She must have found an angel when she ran into you. Most shelters, etc would simply put her down.

But lets see if we can help you (and her) adjust.

1) the scratching - only at night. Your profile doesn't mention but are you in northern or southern hemisphere. IE winter or summer. Summer could be something as simple as bug bites - winter dryish skin. HOWEVER, if she keeps worrying away as the same spot it could be a problem or if could also be emotional strain. Have you tried to find the owners? Not that she would ever do better than with you. You could try adding some more fat into her diet such as cottage cheese, olive oil, etc.

2) the messing in the house. At her age, it's probably an emotional issue. Maybe since she wasn't scolded the first time - she believes it's ok. As much as we say not to in puppy training - I would scold serverely (not physically) and place her outside. I would limit the area of the house she has access to til she re-learns house rules. I would think that unless she is on medication, etc. the affect of the surgery should be minimal and certainly no excuse for going potty inside.

So if she's little orphan annie - I guess that makes you DADDY WARBUCKS. Hopefully the worst of the expenses is over for you.

Posts: 748 | From: Edmonton AB Canada | Registered: Mar 2004
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posted June 09, 2004 03:49 PM      Profile for ellierat         
Rachie you are a wonderful person, Annie is a very lucky girl now to have you.
I would go along with what Doglover has already said, the only extra thing I would add, is when she scratches, stop her. Tell her no, and physically put your hand there to stop it.
The housetraing my exact thoughts, even the op. is no excuse for it. Nip it in the bud right now.

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posted June 09, 2004 05:47 PM      Profile for Barbara Smith         
Annie is a lucky girl. However, she may not be house trained because she was not before, a house dog. For the itching-it could be dry skin all year round. Fish oil capsules is very good for her skin and coat. You can buy them at the drug store. She may need a bath. When my dog starts getting dirty, she scratches a little. Also use dog shampoo. I have also found that using people conditioner on her is fine and she seems to do better longer. Also, it could be her diet. You may want to try home cooked meals. Meat, carrots, kidney beans (or such), rice makes a good meal for your dog. In meats you can use chicken, lamb, fish, boiled ground beef. Make sure you cook any fresh vegies. They digest them better. I cook enough to feed Twinkie for a couple of weeks at the time and freeze it in plastic containers, then take them out one at the time.
Good Luck to you and Annie! And I must say, "God bless people like you."

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Posts: 127 | From: Norf.,Va | Registered: Apr 2004
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posted June 09, 2004 05:48 PM      Profile for Barbara Smith         
Oh, I forgot to say green vegetables!

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Rachie
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posted June 10, 2004 06:05 AM      Profile for Rachie         
Thanks for the suggestions. I can't believe that I had not considered bug bites being the cause of the scratching since it is summer here and I have to cover myself in bug repellant everytime Annie and I go out for a walk. Last night when we came in from our before bedtime walk,I rubbed some anti-itch spray on Annie and it really seemed to help. She still scratched but not like before.

Also, I have already starting limiting her to a small area in the house. Hoping it will help.

To doglover, I know Annie's situation sounded grim and I'm no angel nor do I have and unlimited supply of $$. I just felt like she was worth spending the money on. After all, I'm no longer in the prime of my life either but I'm certainly no where near ready to be put down.

Thanks again for the great advice and suggestions.

Posts: 4 | From: Virginia | Registered: Jun 2004
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posted June 10, 2004 06:27 AM      Profile for DaxAriel's toy         
Well, I hope to run into people like you when I'm 77 cause I still think you're an angel of mercy. And that Annie is lucky to have found you!.
Posts: 748 | From: Edmonton AB Canada | Registered: Mar 2004
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posted June 10, 2004 01:26 PM      Profile for Spyder's Pal         
I wholeheartedly agree with doglover. What extraordinary, special people you are!

I think Annie's best days are ahead of her now.

Posts: 13 | From: Michigan | Registered: May 2004
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posted June 10, 2004 03:54 PM      Profile for gypsy         
Rachie,

Just quite simply TOUCHING!!!!!!! May Annie have a splendid new life with you!! What we do for our pets comes back to us in double, I am sure she will give you much joy and tenderness. Yes, you are an angel though..
Totally agree with all that Doglover said, this person is always right on the money! But the only thing I would add is that it could be some allergies. MY dog used to scratch a lot too, and now that I have her on a super good dog food that she finally loves she now longer scratches. Also, some dogs are allergic even to dust and stuff like that. But by now that problem might be solved and better days are ahead for her, and that is what matters. The soiling in the house you can definitely stop by catching her in the act and being very forceful in your NO and taking her imediately outside. Make sure to revome her "odor" from the spots she has soiled indoors, there are good products available that can do the job, even though you will have to keep an eye on her for a while. Best of luck to you two!!

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Posts: 43 | From: New Jersey USA | Registered: Apr 2004
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posted June 10, 2004 09:41 PM      Profile for irishknight         
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Rachie
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posted June 15, 2004 09:57 AM      Profile for Rachie         
Good news!! We found out yesterday that Annie's tumor was benign. We were very relieved.

Also, the house training is coming along very well. She is doing extremely well while we are home and during the night and has only had a couple of accidents during the day while we are at work.

We are using a moisturizing shampoo for the scratching and it seems to be improving. It dosen't seem to be allergies (Heaven help her in my house if she turns out to be allergic to dust!!)

We appreciate all the support and advice.

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posted June 15, 2004 08:23 PM      Profile for DaxAriel's toy         
That's good news. I'm happy for you both. Well, it seems like your well on your way to a happy future.

Keep posting - we all love to hear about your triumphs.

Posts: 748 | From: Edmonton AB Canada | Registered: Mar 2004
Rachie
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posted June 30, 2004 09:40 AM      Profile for Rachie         
Update on Annie...

After a week long episode of severe diarrhea, our vet has discovered whip worms in Annie's appendix. Luckily, he says the worms are apparently infertile and that's why the eggs have not shown up in her stool. He says she should be good as new in 7 to 10 days. She has been through so much since we found her but is hanging in there. She is such a trooper...

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posted June 30, 2004 02:21 PM      Profile for DaxAriel's toy         
Poor girl.. give hugs & more hugs from us here.
Posts: 748 | From: Edmonton AB Canada | Registered: Mar 2004
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posted July 02, 2004 08:47 PM      Profile for sambucca/whiskey         
Worms great [Frown] , this would explain your housebreaking issues, you will have to be patient I know Whiskey was as the vet put it packed full of worms at 6 weeks just watch him for the next month they have a habit of not dying the first time around, oh and be forewarned it is the nastiest thing I have ever seen them pass. Hope she feels muvh better.
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