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B's Mom
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posted July 10, 2004 06:45 PM      Profile for B's Mom         
I'm new here. I have an 18 week old Pomeranian/Cocker Spaniel Mix. He is very hyper. He jumps on you when you go near him until you tell him to get down or sit. Sometimes he doesn't even listen. 99% of the time he will listen when you say "sit". I bought some of those wee wee pads for puppies today and he just pees on the floor. The previous owner gave him to me cuz she didn't have time for him. her stepdaughter gave him to her. When he was with her, he would be in his crate from 730am til 530pm because she works. He is crate trained obviously, i would be too if i had to be stuck in a boring crate for 10 hours. She didn't think it was fair for him to be in the crate so she decided giving him away to me was better for him since he wont be locked up in the crate for 10 hours. So today he's outside for most of the day and I let him in around 830pm and I gave him his half chewed little pig ear and he laid on his bed and went to town on it. So 'm sitting here on the computer and he walks up to me and I guide him back to his bed to go to sleep, I'd rather have him sleep in his bed at night than the crate. So I grab his pig ear and give it bac to him and he starts pouncing all over and pees twice on the floor. Now is that normal? he peed on the floor 3 times within 10 minutes. I don't know if this is normal either and sorry if it sounds childish or dumb but alot of times i see his weiner out. You know "the pink thing" lol he isn't neutered yet, could that be why he pees sooooo much? When I get him neutered will he maybe be easier to housetrain? Now earlier when he peed, he went by the door but I didn't make it to the door in time to let him out and he peed on teh floor. I know that time wasnt his fault, it was mine for not seeing him by the door. he didnt bark to go out and I was in the other room. I havent had a puppy in years. My dad trained ur puppies when i was younger. Back in the day when he trained them, he would stick the dogs nose near the pee, not in it, and say "no pissing in the house" and the dogs learned after a few weeks. Any training tips are greatly apreciated. I'd like to get him to stop jumping all over everybody too. he's god with my 9 month old nephew, he doesn't jump at him or anything, he just licks him. the baby LOVES him and laughs at him but I'm still careful cuz i dont really know the dog that well yet. Thanks for any help! [Smile] please dont flame me for an un-neutered puppy, i just got him yesterday and am calling my vet Monday(same vet as my cats) to make an appt. he is up to date on shots and tags. [Smile]
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posted July 10, 2004 06:54 PM      Profile for DaxAriel's toy         
You are making the assumption that anyone has spent any time housebreaking him. I would start from scratch. Here are some general tips:

a) when you are not with him (watching him) he should stay in his crate with the door closed.

b) take him out for 4-5 walks a day with him. Puppies tend to get distracted when they are outside so several pees are possible.

c) If he starts to go in the house clap your hands, say HEY loud & clear then scoup him up and take him outside. Praise lots for potty outside. I would get rid of the pads until you plan to have the puppy go to the bathroom in your house while you're away.

d) don't rub their nose in it but show it to him and tell him "BAD DOG" "NO" whatever you're body langueage should tell him you are disgusted.

e) First thing in AM & last thing before bed take him outside. Use "GO PEE" or "Hurray" something so that later you can use the same phase to get him to go when you want him to.

f) limit water after 7pm until he house broken.

Early neutering will deter him from getting into the habit of marking. Marking is usually done with a lifted leg on items.

Good luck.

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posted July 10, 2004 07:02 PM      Profile for sambucca/whiskey         
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I don't know if this is normal either and sorry if it sounds childish or dumb but alot of times i see his weiner out. You know "the pink thing" lol he isn't neutered yet,
Is this supposed to stop after neutering because I still see Whiskeys from time to time and he is neutered?
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posted July 10, 2004 07:09 PM      Profile for B's Mom         
Thank you very much for the tips. And yes you are right, I don't think he was really trained inside. It was basically he went out first thing in the AM to pee/poop then he went in his crate for the day and when she came home it was outside to pee/poop and he could play out there for the evening til it was dark then he came in and he'd be able to run around but i dont really know if she yelled at him for peeing in the house. I think she just wiped it up and put him outside or in his crate cuz tonight when i yelled at him I said "NO GO PEE IN THE HOUSE!! YOU GO PEE OUTSIDE" and he grabbed his pig ear and went in his crate so I think she made him go in his crate if he peed in the house. Does it seem that way to you possibly? Either that or he got a little scared cuz i raised my voice at him. When I see him pee or poop outside I say "GOOD BOY! and give him a piece of dog food(he thinks its a treat lol) The vet said to give him food for a treat while training him so he doesnt get too many treats. But that was his vet she took him to, I'm switching to my cats vet cuz he is a really nice guy. My cat is scared of alot of people but he walked up to his vet and was purring at him so I KNOW he likes him. My cat's never done that to strangers especially his vet lol Plus another thing that I really liked was when i brought my cat in for an abcess this lady in the waiting room had to have her pet put to sleep and the vet was very nice and made time to talk to her and make her feel better. [Smile] Thanks for the help! [Smile]
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posted July 10, 2004 07:12 PM      Profile for B's Mom         
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I don't know if this is normal either and sorry if it sounds childish or dumb but alot of times i see his weiner out. You know "the pink thing" lol he isn't neutered yet,
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Is this supposed to stop after neutering because I still see Whiskeys from time to time and he is neutered?

I see my puppy's ALOT that's why I asked. Is it cuz he's excited?
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posted July 10, 2004 08:09 PM      Profile for DaxAriel's toy         
I've seen it on lots of male animals - I never really paid it any attention. Horses, cows, dogs.
I always assumed they had control over it.

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posted July 10, 2004 08:15 PM      Profile for Elite         
I had aneutered, 5 year old yellow lab, and his was always out...well, not always, but I guess it was becaused he was relaxed. It's now why we don't have a male dog lol...just a little gross looking. So I do think it stops with netering. I think it's just something they do. (anyone ever watch southpark and see the "redrocket doggy, redrocket" epsiode? That was a great one, lol)

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posted July 10, 2004 08:18 PM      Profile for sambucca/whiskey         
lol you killed me with the south park comment. When his comes out an inappropriate time or place I say DONT SHOW YOUR RED ROCKET and it goes away [Roll Eyes]
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posted July 10, 2004 08:28 PM      Profile for ellierat         
You're being disgusting. LOL. LOL. [Big Grin]
When they are fixed the vet only removes the testicles from the scrotum, he doesn't touch Mr ****** .
Mr ****** still has all the normal functions it had before, that includes comming out now and again to say hello.
In fact I have seen Timmy (poodle) actually mate and tie with a female after he had been fixed!!

LOL wouldn't let me type in P E C K E R

[ July 10, 2004, 08:31 PM: Message edited by: ellierat ]

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posted July 10, 2004 08:35 PM      Profile for sambucca/whiskey         
lol. I used less discriptive words then your ****** . or P ecker as you learnt it wouldnt allow lol.
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posted July 10, 2004 08:53 PM      Profile for ellierat         
Everybody must of had a dose of happy pills on here today, every post I go into I gotta crack up, less descriptive!!!Sam, well, red rocket ain't used in everyday conversation. LOL. LOL.

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posted July 10, 2004 08:56 PM      Profile for sambucca/whiskey         
percisley not everybody knows what I am talking about or who too. Those who do understand get a good laugh. And I swear he blushes [Blushing]
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posted July 10, 2004 08:57 PM      Profile for B's Mom         
Not to make this sound gross or perverted but after he's neutered, will he try to hump my leg or my furniture? [Eek!]
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posted July 10, 2004 08:58 PM      Profile for DaxAriel's toy         
I'm going to start using it... "Hey hubby better cover up the RED ROCKET, the paperboy is at the door" See that work just fine....
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posted July 10, 2004 09:01 PM      Profile for sambucca/whiskey         
he will only mount thngs or yourself
1. If you let him.
2. If he is dominating you.

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posted July 10, 2004 09:01 PM      Profile for B's Mom         
LOL You guys are too much! LOL [Big Grin]
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posted July 10, 2004 09:07 PM      Profile for ellierat         
Doglover...LOL LOL LOL LOL ......

No he shouldn't mount he is too young to pick up on this mostly learned, hormonal behaviour, if you have him fixed before he matures you will be ok.

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posted July 11, 2004 01:40 PM      Profile for koni         
when is it a good time to have a puppy neuterd? I heard 4 months and 6 months, but not sure.
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posted July 11, 2004 02:52 PM      Profile for ellierat         
You are waiting for the testicles to be fully descended into the scrotum, most vets here prefer to wait till 6 months, but times are changing, where you are they may do it a lot sooner.

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posted July 12, 2004 01:08 AM      Profile for hawkmoon         
It's been my experience that neutering/spaying doesn't do what everyone says that it will do, except preventing more puppies that come into our world By the way, been there, done that...so many times. I would definitely neuter because if you don't, he will leave home periodically to mate. None of mine's personally changed. Maybe that's just my dogs, but I do rescue and have seem hundreds neutered for agressiveness, etc. Nothing has changed for me as far as that goes. BUT...THIS IS VERY IMPORTANT: Please neuter him. There are so many unwanted puppies and dogs on the run looking for food, paper (my dogs were eating paper when I found them), sheler and someone to love him. The best thing we can do for our animals is to have them neutered or spayed. If he has had agression, maybe it will help, but more than anything, neuter him. As for as his penis coming out, that's normal even after neutering. I don't like it either, but I don't think there's a cure for that. Of all the dogs I've ever been around, my Pomeranian (found him walking in country in direction of huge busy highway) has a few problems. He has been neutered, but if play with him , he gets excited and has erection - but not outside for all to see. He keeps it tucked back in some mystical hidden place. I just get up and let him get over it. When he stands from a nap, he sometimes does a few hunps. Now sometimes that is an indication his **** sacs need expressing - very important - they can make their lives miserable. This should be done probably every 3 months - please check with Vet on that. That's much better than him getting excited over something and spraying just as a cat does. That's not to say "don't play with him," It's just that his stench is worse than any skunk, etc. you have ever smelled. Also, the sacs are located beside his rectum - one of each side. If they aren't cleaned and expressed, that is an easy spot to become infected, meaning of course, $$$ to have this done Thank goodness, it's not a high moony procedure. Some people do it themselves. I will do practically anything to help an animal, but I don't want to learn how to do that. Be SURE the Vet cleans him off good before you leave...it lingers on him and eventually on to you. Actually, if you let them in the yard, they pull themselves across the yard (or carpet as our does) anyway, let them play outside and notice is he pulls his rear scoot across the yard. That fluid is released when they drag on something to drag on. Easier for all concerned. In puppies, that rear end pulling across nice carpet is pretty powerful. Usually, it just means he has to scratch and that is what he was trying to do before anyone saw him. I must say I never had one dog spray me with that odor, One time one of my dogs got scared of another dog in the neighborhood and he sprayed, didn't get me, however...so'im thinking it's his **** sacs that need expressing. He may scream and holler, but I'm told it's not very painful, it's just shocking them to be worked on in that area. Franklu, I'm sure it hurts. But, it's something most dog owners have to do. I don't think it's an expensive procedure either. Hope I helped - am not editing...got to hit the sack. It's 3 AM and I'm still on computer. Good Luck, Hawkmoon

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